Russell Brand interviews Yanis Varoufakis on his Podcast ‘Under the Skin’.

He talks to Yanis Varoufakis about how we can ever hope to unify the fragments of the left, whether there is hope of an alternative future, how technology could be incorporated into a new Utopia, and how we can conceive of a true internationalism.

An excerpt from their discussion.

“I would like a world in which there are restrictions in capital movements and no restrictions on human beings moving around. That for me is the end of globalisation, and the beginning of internationalism. I personally consider borders to be a scar on the face of the earth, and this is the price we have to pay — the more these borders are getting taller, more electrified and more impenetrable, the more capital and commodities are free to move around. We need international solidarity, we need an international movement.

Some of us are putting together what we call the Progressive International. On the 18th of September we have an inaugural meeting and that includes my friend Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, the prime minister of Iceland Katrín Jakobsdóttir, the Bernie Sanders team are part of that, we have people from Nigeria and Japan and so on — because we need to start moving along those lines.”

— Yanis Varoufakis

Listen to the podcast on Luminary.

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